Market traders blame pay-by-phone for quiet Christmas period (From Times Series)
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Traders at Finchley Market blame Barnet Council's pay-by-phone policy for quiet Christmas period
2:50pm Tuesday 4th December 2012 in News
By Chris Hewett
Janine Viner and Andrew Aarns are worried the market will close if the parking policy is not altered
Finchley Market is being “killed off” by Barnet Council’s pay-by-phone parking system according to stall holders desperate to halt the steady decline.
In the middle of what should be its busiest period, the weekly Friday market, held in the Lodge Lane car park, is suffering its worst trading conditions in years, say traders.
According to many stall holders, the decline began when Barnet Council introduced its pay-by-phone system more than a year ago.
They say customers simply “can’t be bothered” to sort out the pay-by-phone parking and find payment scratch cards impossible to pick up in local shops.
Joan Jarber, whose husband has run a glasses stall at the market for six years, said: “For the pre-Christmas months, this is very quiet – I’ve never known it so bad.
“The market is down to about two thirds of what it was two years ago and it is 100 per cent down to the parking situation.
“It is ruining our business – this is our livelihood. We should be picking up for Christmas and there is no-one here.”
The council’s new parking portfolio holder, Councillor Dean Cohen, carried out a lengthy consultation among traders over the summer to revise the parking policy in North Finchley.
Since taking over from Brian Coleman in May, Cllr Cohen has twice reduced charges and recently announced plans for credit card payment machines in the new year.
Cllr Cohen said recent changes to the parking policy, including two hours of free parking in the weekend before Christmas, should be enough to bring customers back and there are no plans to introduce further measures.
He said: “The new measures deal with the off-street on-street and market parking problems. The card metres are going into the car parks for people struggling with the pay-by-phone system or finding it hard to get scratch cards. All of the measures are for the benefit of the people shopping on the high street and in the market.”
But stall holders argue that customers are staying away due to a lack of a cash payment option – something the authority has ruled out reintroducing in cost grounds.
Andrew Aarns, who owns the pet stall in the market, met a council officer during the consultation to discuss trader suggestions, including bringing back cash payments and introducing a free parking period on market days.
He said: “They have totally ignored the basic problem. We have lost the elderly and the mums coming back from the school run.
“We have already lost four or five stalls in the last year and I can quite easily see that this market will die – it is slowly being killed off by this parking policy.”
Janine Viner, who has run the household goods stall for the past 28 years, fears that if nothing changes the market will close.
The 51-year-old said: “In the last year or so, since the pay-by-phone has come in, I’m down a quarter in takings.
“It is dead here – it should be buzzing with people at this time of year. It is depressing – we’re here at 6am and up at 4am and it is all for nothing.
“We’re only here once a week – they need to bring back the cash system.”
Comments(13)
harvey_uk
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8:08pm Tue 4 Dec 12
james smyth
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11:32pm Tue 4 Dec 12
There is a bit of confusion in this report because it says "trade is down 2 thirds in the last 2 years,all down to the parking.
However this new system hasnt been in 2 years yet.
Therefore all the traders that have been shouting that the new scheme has descimated our trades have actually been telling little white lies because one trader has now admitted that for 2 years trade has been down!
Fireball
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11:46am Wed 5 Dec 12
james smyth
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12:09pm Wed 5 Dec 12
Could you please explain how that would be enforced ?
Yet another blinkered person who will admit to driving away from their local shops in order to save a £1 yet have spent more than that in petrol. Your proberly one of the same sort of people that wont use a garage because you have to pay for the air so drive 5 miles out of your way for the sake of 50p.
What the council has done to increase its revenue to pay for other things is no different to petrol stns charging for things which used to be free,but there is no hysteria about garages charging for air & water,is there?
Or shops charging for carrier bags?
By having to pay for parking actually helps the flows of trade as it prevents people leaving their cars for hours while they go to work etc.
dawat6295
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11:05pm Wed 5 Dec 12
I used to regularly park and shop in several parts of Barnet. I say used to, because I no longer do apart from the Spires and Brent Cross. The Spires because it has a coin machine car park and Brent Cross because parking is free.
I accept that I may be a Dinasaur for not liking pay by phone parking. But at the end of the day, its my money, my time and my choice as to where I shop.
So I for one know that I have been influenced by the Council decision to insist of paying by phone for parking. This isn't a theory I'm arguing about, but a statement of fact as far as I am concerned.
I don't know of how many other people who think like me, but I suspect that there must be quite a few if the traders are complaining so much.
Mr. Datchery
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5:23pm Thu 6 Dec 12
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Centre of the Road
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2:23am Sat 8 Dec 12
dawat6295
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12:19pm Mon 10 Dec 12
How can the situation you describe be accurate. People must have known where the market is to have gone there in the first place. How can people stop going to a market that they never knew existed? Did they all suddenly have amnesia?
F..kedupBarnet
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1:33pm Mon 10 Dec 12
Centre of the Road
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8:00pm Mon 10 Dec 12
dawat6295 wrote:dawat6295, I should have made it clearer, but what I meant to get across was that because people die, move areas, no longer find the traders or products to their liking etc., footfall decreases. If there is no way of increasing new customers to the site, then, of course, trade goes down because of a net loss of footfall.
Centre of the Road, I'm sorry but reading you comment made little sense to me.
How can the situation you describe be accurate. People must have known where the market is to have gone there in the first place. How can people stop going to a market that they never knew existed? Did they all suddenly have amnesia?
Cadwallader
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1:28am Tue 11 Dec 12
Called to complain and was told it wasn't their fault I didn't have enough credit on my phone! I told them that whenever I see their number over a parking space, I will drive to the next town to avoid dealing with them.
Brian Coleman didn't want to deal with them, even after he had all the cash-payment machines ripped out specifically to prevent their being redeployed when this nightmare of a scheme turned turtle. He was parking illegally to avoid it all when he got into his little spot of bother.
The dumb insistence of the council on refusing to see that the transaction, rather than the amount, is what is strangling retail in Barnet, can be seen by their repeated, triumphant (and ineffective) price cuts and amnesties.
It's not the cost of the space (though it was too high) it's the dire nature of the registration and booking process. It's fundamentally unworkable, and people's businesses and livelihoods have been lost, with no recourse to compensation.
This is an example of wilful municipal incompetence coupled with indifferent commercial incompetence, to produce a model of what we can expect across the board in Barnet, when they roll out their privatization scheme. For which the parking system was a prototype.
Rog T
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2:28pm Tue 11 Dec 12
As you are the master of stupid comments, you really should lay off trolling other people who are simply trying to express an opinion.
If you are going to call people stupid, you really should check your spelling (probably). Otherwise people will probably conclude you are a ****
NoToMob Member says...
3:22pm Tue 4 Dec 12