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Battle of Barnet may be mile north of accepted site


THE BATTLE of Barnet may be one mile to the north of the accepted site, according to an archaeological group.

The Battlefields Trust is launching an appeal to raise money for an archaeological survey to be undertaken near Kitts End, where they think the battle really took place.

The battle on April 14, 1471 has foxed archaeologists until now because no evidence of it has ever been found.

A similar issue had effected the site of the Battle of Bosworth, which took place on August 22 1485 in Leicestershire.

However, the Battlefields Trust, which is based in St Albans, made headlines earlier this year when members found evidence of the real site of the Battle of Bosworth, two miles away from where people had thought it was.

Archaeologists were amazed when more artillery shot was found on this site than at all the battlefields in Europe in 15th and 16th centuries put together.

Now they think Barnet could be the earliest battle to use artillery on a large scale, making it even more historically significant.

Chairman of the Battlefields Trust, Frank Baldwin, said: “The story of Bosworth is probably also true of the story of Barnet.

“The reason we couldn't find any evidence is because it wasn't there.”

He said the confusion may have come because people who listed the current site, were not clear of the size of Barnet at the time.

But recent research by Potters Bar historian, Brian Warren, determined that in the 15th century Barnet's boundaries reached further than previously thought.

Field archaeologist and battlefield specialist, Dr Glenn Foard from the University of Leeds, said: "The registered battlefield in Hadley Green is completely wrong, there is no doubt about that. "Brian Warren demonstrated quite clearly where the chapel to the dead was constructed after the battle.”

Dr Foard said the chapel, or chantry, alongside lead shot found by a resident nearby gave the group a good idea of where they think the real site is.

Both battles were important dates in the Wars of the Roses, an epic fight between royal contenders from the House of Lancaster and the House of York, which determined who is on the throne today.

The group is keen for residents to get involved and to report any finds from the area which may have come from the battle, even if previously they had been thought to come from the English Civil War.

The Battlefields Trust is also holding a historical walk around the area on April 12 to raise money.

Do you think you have a Battle of Barnet find? Contact reporter Sarah Cosgrove on 07795 505 961 or email scosgrove@london.newsquest.co.uk.


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Antoinette, finchley says...
5:18pm Wed 10 Mar 10

seem to remember that the Two Men in a Trench series was going to investigate a field further north of the site called 'Deadman's Bottom' or similar ... this would have been really interesting but the outbreak of foot and mouth and the consequent restrictions put a stop to it. But didn't someone find a cannon ball from the battle period in a ditch on Hadley Green not so long ago?

Grumblepop, says...
5:47pm Wed 10 Mar 10

Ahh! it's wonderful, all that history of Großbritannien/Gran
de Bretagne.

Martin Reboul, Hendon says...
6:57pm Tue 16 Mar 10

I wondered how long this 'sensational revelation' would take to turn up?

They are of course dead wrong... I had the decency to warn them of their mistakes early last year... so be it. Let the second battle commence!

As a matter of honour and decency, I think it only fair to warn Mr Warren and whoever he has convinced at the Battlefield Trust, I hold the high ground, have the evidence, and most importantly of all, know where the bodies are buried. Feel free to consider that as a metaphor or simile as you like.

Please bear in mind this is Barnet, and NOT Bosworth gentlemen, and if you insist on running down Ambion Hill to your doom, you will need more than a spare horse to get out of the mire!

A sensible discussion would have been sensible before engaging?
Personally I go with Sun Tzu as a rule, but since you never had the courtesy to reply or acknowledge the truth, on your heads be it - and yours are on the block, not mine!

On a more positive note, it is time this crucial battle was properly acknowledged and recognised, I am quite certain untold archaeological treasures await discovery - though only if you dig in the right place of course. Why nobody spotted it years ago is a mystery to me?
I have already told everyone quite openly, in the hope something might be done - but no. You prefer Deerham Park... now why is that? As if I didn't know!

See you on the field...
Martin

Battlefields Trust, says...
2:24pm Wed 7 Apr 10

Martin,

We want to raise money to carry out a proper survey of all of the alternative sites. So far Brian Warren has put forwards the best evidence challenging the Registered battlefield. If you have an alternative to this, I am sure that it would be considered by the archaeological team - if and when we can raise the money! Its the same as Bosworth, where Michael Jones' theory was investigated alonside the others.

Battlefields Trust, says...
5:50pm Thu 8 Apr 10

CORRECTION - THE BATTLEFIELD WALK IS ON SUNDAY 11TH AND NOT MONDAY 12TH APRIL 2010 MEET OLD MONKEN HALT PUBLIC HOUSE 11 AM

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Battlefields Trust chairman Frank Baldwin at the official site at Hadley Green Battlefields Trust chairman Frank Baldwin at the official site at Hadley Green

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