Wrong time for traffic survey

I am very angry once again with Barnet Council which in July, gave planning permission for Etz Chaim free school to open in the former Wyevale Garden Centre, Daws Lane, Mill Hill.

The main problem is the traffic in Daws Lane and Poets Corner, which I complained about the council.

It then sent someone to do a traffic survey at 8.45am, despite the fact the main problem is between 8.15am and 8.45am.

Thus, the person missed all the traffic that goes up Daws Lane and onto Hammers Lane. What a coincidence there were no cars parked on the corner of Marion Road and Daws Lane.

I have lived in Mill Hill all my life and in Marion Road for more than 25 years and we have never had so much traffic. I can’t even pull out of my road in the mornings, as you can’t see what is coming up or down Daws Lane.

I take my life in my hands every morning when I pull out of my road and I believe it is an accident waiting to happen.

The council wants this school to go ahead and doesn’t care about any one else. I am so upset.

Carol Reid
Marion Road, Mill Hill

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1:10pm Fri 18 Nov 11

WhyaretheresomanyNIMBY'S says...

Carol
Cant understand your comments. Are you aware that Daws Lane is not just used by the few parents taking their children to school in the morning, there is actually more non school traffic using that road.
I also never heard or saw anyone complaining/writing articles to the local newspaper) when the HGV delivery lorries for the garden centre were driving and parking on Daws Lane ( funny that!!)
Surely that was more of a danger.
Carol Cant understand your comments. Are you aware that Daws Lane is not just used by the few parents taking their children to school in the morning, there is actually more non school traffic using that road. I also never heard or saw anyone complaining/writing articles to the local newspaper) when the HGV delivery lorries for the garden centre were driving and parking on Daws Lane ( funny that!!) Surely that was more of a danger. WhyaretheresomanyNIMBY'S

2:45pm Sat 19 Nov 11

james smyth says...

It does not matter what steps are taken to prevent this or that nobody takes any notice. Just further down Daws Lane just by the Mail sorting office it is quite clearly NO PARKING ,there is a sign that states CLEARWAY ZONE with its operating period. However this does not apply to the dozens of British Gas Vans that park on the double yellow lines every day to pop into the Sorting Office to collect their parcels of spare parts.
The parking attendants dont bother to do anything,they just turn a blind eye.
Yes it is crazy that all the extra cars fill every space of the road Double Yellows or corners. It is an offence to park within so many metres of a junc, but nobody will do anything about it.
It does not matter what steps are taken to prevent this or that nobody takes any notice. Just further down Daws Lane just by the Mail sorting office it is quite clearly NO PARKING ,there is a sign that states CLEARWAY ZONE with its operating period. However this does not apply to the dozens of British Gas Vans that park on the double yellow lines every day to pop into the Sorting Office to collect their parcels of spare parts. The parking attendants dont bother to do anything,they just turn a blind eye. Yes it is crazy that all the extra cars fill every space of the road Double Yellows or corners. It is an offence to park within so many metres of a junc, but nobody will do anything about it. james smyth

7:44am Mon 21 Nov 11

redrenault says...

Mr Smyth .. Its called growth.There is pent up demand within the "local" area for a school. With considerate implementation i am sure a compromise or agreement can be made. If not a school you can expect to see a Tesco or new homes ( possibly even squatters).. so take your pic. Either way the site can not be allowed to go derelict and you have a choice .. 30 mins slightly more agro at school arriving / leaving times .. or all day. You have seen what has happened at cannons corner with the Tesco there ! its carnage. Regards
Mr Smyth .. Its called growth.There is pent up demand within the "local" area for a school. With considerate implementation i am sure a compromise or agreement can be made. If not a school you can expect to see a Tesco or new homes ( possibly even squatters).. so take your pic. Either way the site can not be allowed to go derelict and you have a choice .. 30 mins slightly more agro at school arriving / leaving times .. or all day. You have seen what has happened at cannons corner with the Tesco there ! its carnage. Regards redrenault

8:48am Tue 22 Nov 11

james smyth says...

@ redrenault
What on earth are you on about?
I never said in my reply that I was against a school or Tescos or a garden center. What i said if you have actually bothered to read before jumping to your keyboard was that no one in authority (the parking attendants) who has the oppertunity to change things and make it safer for people in that area ,be it residents,people going to school,a tescos or to a garden center or the park will do anything.
It doesnt matter what is there, people parking where they shouldnt and making it hazardous for others need to be dealt with.
@ redrenault What on earth are you on about? I never said in my reply that I was against a school or Tescos or a garden center. What i said if you have actually bothered to read before jumping to your keyboard was that no one in authority (the parking attendants) who has the oppertunity to change things and make it safer for people in that area ,be it residents,people going to school,a tescos or to a garden center or the park will do anything. It doesnt matter what is there, people parking where they shouldnt and making it hazardous for others need to be dealt with. james smyth

10:07pm Tue 22 Nov 11

harvey_uk says...

@redrenault..noticed how you said pent up demand in the 'local' area. Local being what to you? If you’re Jewish at the least is the selection criterion. If this area needs a school, surely it should be for all faiths and teach academia firstly and leave the religion to family's to teach their children. I see this type of school causing division within London’s multi-cultural society.
@redrenault..noticed how you said pent up demand in the 'local' area. Local being what to you? If you’re Jewish at the least is the selection criterion. If this area needs a school, surely it should be for all faiths and teach academia firstly and leave the religion to family's to teach their children. I see this type of school causing division within London’s multi-cultural society. harvey_uk

7:44am Wed 23 Nov 11

redrenault says...

Harvey .. Are you saying that if it was NOT a Jewish school you would support the proposal ?
Harvey .. Are you saying that if it was NOT a Jewish school you would support the proposal ? redrenault

2:03pm Wed 23 Nov 11

jimbobNW7 says...

@Ms Reid - I too am Poets' Corner resident and accept that sometimes, like most of the rest of London, traffic around our area can be a nightmare - however this is not down to the school. You state that the worst time is between 08.15 and 08.45. I understand that Etz Chaim does not open until 08.45 so surely they cannot be blamed for all the traffic?
@harvey_uk - I am wondering what your issue with Jewish people is (and after reading your posts on this website for a while all other minority groups in the UK)? The Jewish population of Mill Hill is well established, growing and a real asset to the community. There is huge demand for another Jewish School in Mill Hill and this has been accepted by Dept for Education. Further more the rules which govern free schools are such that only 50% of the places available are given on the basis of religion and the rest are given on distance. This is not one of the school's rules but is governed by statute. Plus we live in a functioning democracy where people are given choices. If you do not want your child to go to a school with a particular ethos then you simply do not send them there. On the other should someone else wish to do so then as democratic citizens we should respect the needs and wants of others. I would suggest that you do your homework before opening the hole under your nose ...
@james symth - I could not agree with you more. There are long standing issues on this road which have nothing to do with the school and you are spot on in your comment that if the highways signs were obeyed by everyone and enforced properly then there really would not be a problem on this street.

So far my experience of this school so far has been very positive. I have not seen the parents / pupils causing any extra traffic and so far the school has been a great neighbour for the area. The bigger problem in Poets' Corner is, dare I say a certain other school!!!
@Ms Reid - I too am Poets' Corner resident and accept that sometimes, like most of the rest of London, traffic around our area can be a nightmare - however this is not down to the school. You state that the worst time is between 08.15 and 08.45. I understand that Etz Chaim does not open until 08.45 so surely they cannot be blamed for all the traffic? @harvey_uk - I am wondering what your issue with Jewish people is (and after reading your posts on this website for a while all other minority groups in the UK)? The Jewish population of Mill Hill is well established, growing and a real asset to the community. There is huge demand for another Jewish School in Mill Hill and this has been accepted by Dept for Education. Further more the rules which govern free schools are such that only 50% of the places available are given on the basis of religion and the rest are given on distance. This is not one of the school's rules but is governed by statute. Plus we live in a functioning democracy where people are given choices. If you do not want your child to go to a school with a particular ethos then you simply do not send them there. On the other should someone else wish to do so then as democratic citizens we should respect the needs and wants of others. I would suggest that you do your homework before opening the hole under your nose ... @james symth - I could not agree with you more. There are long standing issues on this road which have nothing to do with the school and you are spot on in your comment that if the highways signs were obeyed by everyone and enforced properly then there really would not be a problem on this street. So far my experience of this school so far has been very positive. I have not seen the parents / pupils causing any extra traffic and so far the school has been a great neighbour for the area. The bigger problem in Poets' Corner is, dare I say a certain other school!!! jimbobNW7

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