Watford agree in principle for Sarries to stage matches (From Times Series)
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Watford agree in principle for Saracens to play five games at Vicarage Road
3:09pm Saturday 14th July 2012 in Ryman Premier Division Table & Results
By Simon Mail
Watford have agreed in principle for Saracens to play five matches at Vicarage Road next season.
The Premiership rugby club are moving to Copthall Stadium in February but want to stage games at Watford between November and January.
The Hornets released a statement which revealed the agreement has yet to be approved by the club's executive management team.
Confirmation of the tenancy extension agreement is likely to be announced within the next week.
Comments(44)
andyhooked
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4:42pm Sat 14 Jul 12
Bringe
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5:49pm Sat 14 Jul 12
I say send em all packing!
ralear49
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6:02pm Sat 14 Jul 12
SAHornet
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6:48pm Sat 14 Jul 12
jasonwatford
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7:16pm Sat 14 Jul 12
Ronny oh Ronny Ronny
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7:49pm Sat 14 Jul 12
andyhooked wrote:Ahhhh the wasps, do you think they have a good B team??!!!
5 matches Okay with me. At least the stadium is being used and the pitch should not be badly affected, if it ever stops bliking well raining. Never seen the Saries at Watford as I prefer the other insects (Wasps)
As long as we get paid very well, 5 games on a brand new pitch I can deal with. Then get rid!
jasonwatford
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7:54pm Sat 14 Jul 12
Dino1982
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11:45pm Sat 14 Jul 12
They ruin the pitch and cause extra traffic into the town!!
WFC4ever
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2:01am Sun 15 Jul 12
corbindallas
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7:17am Sun 15 Jul 12
saracenman
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8:09am Sun 15 Jul 12
At least Sarries have been Premier Champions recently- pray tell me what Watford have ever done?
The sooner we are out of that place the better- it's a depressing morgue!
SAHornet
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8:49am Sun 15 Jul 12
saracenman wrote:To be fair saracenman, I don't think the way your owner/chairman carried out the initial negotiation with our board regarding your possible leaving of Vicarage Road has done anything to endear Saracens to the Watford faithful. Anyway, good luck at your new home next year.
What a typically blinkered and nasty reaction from the Watford supporters!
At least Sarries have been Premier Champions recently- pray tell me what Watford have ever done?
The sooner we are out of that place the better- it's a depressing morgue!
not a regular
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10:23am Sun 15 Jul 12
Two premiership clubs in our little town would have been great.
buckler
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10:29am Sun 15 Jul 12
mrbankrupt
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12:57pm Sun 15 Jul 12
corbindallas
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2:33pm Sun 15 Jul 12
SAHornet wrote:As SAHornet states, Saracens refusal to talk with Watford and abide by deadlines set twice by the landlord means you have used up most of you respect and welcome here at Vicarage Road. I need to remind you that without us you would have been in a difficult situation so should not be knocking us, at the end of the day it is Watford Football Clubs ground and you are just a temporary resident, who we don't need anymore, now!
saracenman wrote:To be fair saracenman, I don't think the way your owner/chairman carried out the initial negotiation with our board regarding your possible leaving of Vicarage Road has done anything to endear Saracens to the Watford faithful. Anyway, good luck at your new home next year.
What a typically blinkered and nasty reaction from the Watford supporters!
At least Sarries have been Premier Champions recently- pray tell me what Watford have ever done?
The sooner we are out of that place the better- it's a depressing morgue!
Johnny Ryden
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5:38pm Sun 15 Jul 12
saracenman
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6:11pm Sun 15 Jul 12
Johnny Ryden
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7:35pm Sun 15 Jul 12
saracenman wrote:Watford were screwed by Saracens and actually lost money over the 10 year deal!
the money Sarries have paid Watford over the years has kept Watford afloat- without Sarries help you could have gone out of business and nearly always flirting with relegation and playing in a ground with dreadful facilities- our Opposition fans constantly refer to it as the toilet
saracenman
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9:21pm Sun 15 Jul 12
Johnny Ryden wrote:absolute rubbish - the ones who were screwed were Sarries - get your fact straight and if you want to make remarks like that back it up with facts and the truth not your myopic assumptions
saracenman wrote:Watford were screwed by Saracens and actually lost money over the 10 year deal!
the money Sarries have paid Watford over the years has kept Watford afloat- without Sarries help you could have gone out of business and nearly always flirting with relegation and playing in a ground with dreadful facilities- our Opposition fans constantly refer to it as the toilet
Paul Gadd
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10:18pm Sun 15 Jul 12
akureyri
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12:06pm Mon 16 Jul 12
Lady Phillippa Of Staines
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12:19pm Mon 16 Jul 12
He turned my Fathers croquet lawn into a battle field with Lady Margaret from next door so regularly my Pa burnt Unc's clothes in a bin our maze - he didnt come back
Smilingburkinshaw
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12:59pm Mon 16 Jul 12
saracenman wrote:Yeah because all the rugby clubs have wonderful stadiums! From what I understand you had a pretty good deal that didnt change for about 10 years! Trust me we are absolutely delighted your leaving and by the sounds of it so are you, so everyones a winner! Cheerio.
the money Sarries have paid Watford over the years has kept Watford afloat- without Sarries help you could have gone out of business and nearly always flirting with relegation and playing in a ground with dreadful facilities- our Opposition fans constantly refer to it as the toilet
bushey tales
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1:12pm Mon 16 Jul 12
AngelHornet
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2:06pm Mon 16 Jul 12
saracenman wrote:You've obviously needed us for however long it's been.
What a typically blinkered and nasty reaction from the Watford supporters!
At least Sarries have been Premier Champions recently- pray tell me what Watford have ever done?
The sooner we are out of that place the better- it's a depressing morgue!
You may have been Premiership Champions, but realistically how many of those clubs are capable of winning the league. Rather like the Rugby World Cup!
DannyMan
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2:40pm Mon 16 Jul 12
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Fact is, whatever Watford supporters may think of Sarries' contributions to WFC's coffers, no-one forced WFC to sign the contract all those years ago. And now it's run its course, soon we'll be off, and we will not be sorry to go. As someone said above, everyone wins.
CroxleyTandoori
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2:51pm Mon 16 Jul 12
AngelHornet
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3:06pm Mon 16 Jul 12
DannyMan wrote:Fair point, but I'm looking at the Championship in football terms.
As it happens, AngelHornet, the rugby premiership has been won by 6 different clubs since it went fully professional in 1997/98. Three different clubs have won in the last three seasons, two of them first-time winners (one of which was relegated not so long ago). Not bad for a 12-club league, and a lot more open than the football premiership which has been won by just four different clubs in the same period.
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Fact is, whatever Watford supporters may think of Sarries' contributions to WFC's coffers, no-one forced WFC to sign the contract all those years ago. And now it's run its course, soon we'll be off, and we will not be sorry to go. As someone said above, everyone wins.
We may not have the best of grounds, but there aren't too many rugby grounds that hold our capacity at club level, which not so long ago you nearly filled regularly.
SAHornet
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3:34pm Mon 16 Jul 12
Lady Phillippa Of Staines wrote:You wa !?
Sarries remind me of unwanted Reminds me of Uncle Humbert who wouldnt leave my fathers Great House in Denham in the 50s.
He turned my Fathers croquet lawn into a battle field with Lady Margaret from next door so regularly my Pa burnt Unc's clothes in a bin our maze - he didnt come back
DannyMan
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3:40pm Mon 16 Jul 12
Dr,Oftaw
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4:07pm Mon 16 Jul 12
buckler
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4:39pm Mon 16 Jul 12
DannyMan wrote:Huge rush! what all 500 public schoolboys. Average more like 2,000 and will end up begging anyone to come along for free! Big things happening at WFC so Ciao egg chasers.
We nearly filled it occasionally, regularly is putting it a bit strong! One of the main reasons for moving is that it's just too darn big for us, which has the effect of suppressing demand because people think (correctly) that they can just turn up on the day, and then they don't because something came up or it's raining or whatever. But season tickets for next season, including Copthall, went on sale last week and there's been a huge rush for them, precisely because it's smaller and people fear not getting in. I predict that Sarries will average 10,000 per game at Copthall (i.e. sell out every premiership match), which we've never got near (on average) at VR.
AngelHornet
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4:49pm Mon 16 Jul 12
DannyMan wrote:Good luck with Copthall. I'm hoping Watford will be looking at around 17-20,000 in the next 3-5 years
We nearly filled it occasionally, regularly is putting it a bit strong! One of the main reasons for moving is that it's just too darn big for us, which has the effect of suppressing demand because people think (correctly) that they can just turn up on the day, and then they don't because something came up or it's raining or whatever. But season tickets for next season, including Copthall, went on sale last week and there's been a huge rush for them, precisely because it's smaller and people fear not getting in. I predict that Sarries will average 10,000 per game at Copthall (i.e. sell out every premiership match), which we've never got near (on average) at VR.
Mickey Quinn, not so thin
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5:04pm Mon 16 Jul 12
Dr,Oftaw wrote:where ??
see we are linked with chaloba from chelsea and cudicini spurs
Mickey Quinn, not so thin
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5:07pm Mon 16 Jul 12
Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:ah just seen - transfer rumours site....not the most reliable !
Dr,Oftaw wrote:where ??
see we are linked with chaloba from chelsea and cudicini spurs
jasonwatford
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6:58pm Mon 16 Jul 12
Dr,Oftaw
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7:06pm Mon 16 Jul 12
Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:daily mirror
Mickey Quinn, not so thin wrote:ah just seen - transfer rumours site....not the most reliable !Dr,Oftaw wrote: see we are linked with chaloba from chelsea and cudicini spurswhere ??
Johnny Ryden
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7:10pm Mon 16 Jul 12
saracenman wrote:My understanding is that the contract was fixed over a ten year period and did not allow sufficiently for inflation, stadium and match day costs, contract management and accounting for pitch re-newal. In the spirit of Partnership, Watford asked for the opportunity to re-negotiate but they were refused.
Johnny Ryden wrote:absolute rubbish - the ones who were screwed were Sarries - get your fact straight and if you want to make remarks like that back it up with facts and the truth not your myopic assumptionssaracenman wrote: the money Sarries have paid Watford over the years has kept Watford afloat- without Sarries help you could have gone out of business and nearly always flirting with relegation and playing in a ground with dreadful facilities- our Opposition fans constantly refer to it as the toiletWatford were screwed by Saracens and actually lost money over the 10 year deal!
DannyMan
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7:21pm Mon 16 Jul 12
buckler wrote:Oh well done buckler, what an hilarious fellow you are! Exactly the kind of knuckle-scraping moron we'll be delighted to leave behind. Good luck with the next 10 financial crises and 15 new owners over the next 5 years. I shall be happily raising a glass of Pimms in the shiny new east stand, already being constructed at Copthall. When's your new east stand due to be finished?
DannyMan wrote:Huge rush! what all 500 public schoolboys. Average more like 2,000 and will end up begging anyone to come along for free! Big things happening at WFC so Ciao egg chasers.
We nearly filled it occasionally, regularly is putting it a bit strong! One of the main reasons for moving is that it's just too darn big for us, which has the effect of suppressing demand because people think (correctly) that they can just turn up on the day, and then they don't because something came up or it's raining or whatever. But season tickets for next season, including Copthall, went on sale last week and there's been a huge rush for them, precisely because it's smaller and people fear not getting in. I predict that Sarries will average 10,000 per game at Copthall (i.e. sell out every premiership match), which we've never got near (on average) at VR.
jimbuctu
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7:57pm Mon 16 Jul 12
DannyMan wrote:In terms of sensible opinions without petty insults and usual immature dross from Buckler, I think both clubs will be happier living apart!
buckler wrote:Oh well done buckler, what an hilarious fellow you are! Exactly the kind of knuckle-scraping moron we'll be delighted to leave behind. Good luck with the next 10 financial crises and 15 new owners over the next 5 years. I shall be happily raising a glass of Pimms in the shiny new east stand, already being constructed at Copthall. When's your new east stand due to be finished?
DannyMan wrote:Huge rush! what all 500 public schoolboys. Average more like 2,000 and will end up begging anyone to come along for free! Big things happening at WFC so Ciao egg chasers.
We nearly filled it occasionally, regularly is putting it a bit strong! One of the main reasons for moving is that it's just too darn big for us, which has the effect of suppressing demand because people think (correctly) that they can just turn up on the day, and then they don't because something came up or it's raining or whatever. But season tickets for next season, including Copthall, went on sale last week and there's been a huge rush for them, precisely because it's smaller and people fear not getting in. I predict that Sarries will average 10,000 per game at Copthall (i.e. sell out every premiership match), which we've never got near (on average) at VR.
Glad to see Sarries have sorted themselves out, and doubly glad to see we've done the same so we don't need to have tennants.
The future looks bright for both clubs, long may that continue.
SAHornet
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10:14pm Mon 16 Jul 12
jimbuctu wrote:Good, sensible post Jim but spoilt by petty insult about buckler. Probably best for all to stop posting about this now.
DannyMan wrote:In terms of sensible opinions without petty insults and usual immature dross from Buckler, I think both clubs will be happier living apart!
buckler wrote:Oh well done buckler, what an hilarious fellow you are! Exactly the kind of knuckle-scraping moron we'll be delighted to leave behind. Good luck with the next 10 financial crises and 15 new owners over the next 5 years. I shall be happily raising a glass of Pimms in the shiny new east stand, already being constructed at Copthall. When's your new east stand due to be finished?
DannyMan wrote:Huge rush! what all 500 public schoolboys. Average more like 2,000 and will end up begging anyone to come along for free! Big things happening at WFC so Ciao egg chasers.
We nearly filled it occasionally, regularly is putting it a bit strong! One of the main reasons for moving is that it's just too darn big for us, which has the effect of suppressing demand because people think (correctly) that they can just turn up on the day, and then they don't because something came up or it's raining or whatever. But season tickets for next season, including Copthall, went on sale last week and there's been a huge rush for them, precisely because it's smaller and people fear not getting in. I predict that Sarries will average 10,000 per game at Copthall (i.e. sell out every premiership match), which we've never got near (on average) at VR.
Glad to see Sarries have sorted themselves out, and doubly glad to see we've done the same so we don't need to have tennants.
The future looks bright for both clubs, long may that continue.
The future for both Clubs is rosy so let's bury the hatchet and move on....apart.
JohnnyHornet
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10:00am Tue 17 Jul 12
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