POLL: Do you agree with Brent Cross regeneration?

An artist's impression of what the new and improved Brent Cross Shopping Centre will look like

An artist's impression of what the new and improved Brent Cross Shopping Centre will look like

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Councillors have approved £4billion plans to redevelop Brent Cross shopping centre and the surrounding area - but what do you think of the current plans?

The original planning application, approved in 2010, was amended and many feel the old proposals were more suitable.

Read about the decision, made at last night's Barnet Borough Council planning meeting, and the reaction of the project developers, and then have your say in the poll and in the comments section below.

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6:30pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Jon10 says...

Does this vote include the 400,000 tonnes/year waste incinerator, the 140m-high chimney, the loss of the Brent Terrace green spaces and the Cricklewood Green Space, and Barnet's estimate of 29,000 extra cars per day in the area?

Or is it a poll about some shops?
Does this vote include the 400,000 tonnes/year waste incinerator, the 140m-high chimney, the loss of the Brent Terrace green spaces and the Cricklewood Green Space, and Barnet's estimate of 29,000 extra cars per day in the area? Or is it a poll about some shops? Jon10
  • Score: 0

6:32pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Jon10 says...

Can't your poll say how many people have voted?

(A NO vote just changed your numbers by 4%, so presumably it is possible to say that 25 have done so up till 6.30pm Friday.)
Can't your poll say how many people have voted? (A NO vote just changed your numbers by 4%, so presumably it is possible to say that 25 have done so up till 6.30pm Friday.) Jon10
  • Score: 1

7:22pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Phil Fletcher says...

The Brent Cross/Cricklewood REgeneration site is one of the largest brownfield sites in Europe, and what is being decided now will be there for decades to come.
Given the magnitude of this project and given the fact that, we were told, that the Planning and Environment committee meeting on Thursday night was not whipped, and given that what the developers said was not exactly rich in detail, the Conservativ e members didn't exactly come out with many questions!
Light Rail was pooh-poohed by R. Cornelius.
Madrid, Hamburg and Chicago all are developing plans to cut down car use and improve public transport and cycling conditions, but not Barnet.
Instead extra cars a day on roads with air pollution levels the highest in Europe of any european capital city.
And the A406 is one of the most polluted roads in London.
29,000 cars a day on Roads
The Brent Cross/Cricklewood REgeneration site is one of the largest brownfield sites in Europe, and what is being decided now will be there for decades to come. Given the magnitude of this project and given the fact that, we were told, that the Planning and Environment committee meeting on Thursday night was not whipped, and given that what the developers said was not exactly rich in detail, the Conservativ e members didn't exactly come out with many questions! Light Rail was pooh-poohed by R. Cornelius. Madrid, Hamburg and Chicago all are developing plans to cut down car use and improve public transport and cycling conditions, but not Barnet. Instead extra cars a day on roads with air pollution levels the highest in Europe of any european capital city. And the A406 is one of the most polluted roads in London. 29,000 cars a day on Roads Phil Fletcher
  • Score: 3

9:43am Sat 1 Feb 14

educated says...

Jon10 wrote:
Can't your poll say how many people have voted?

(A NO vote just changed your numbers by 4%, so presumably it is possible to say that 25 have done so up till 6.30pm Friday.)
How can you tell that the numbers have jumped? You can't see the %s until you have voted and don't know what they were before.
[quote][p][bold]Jon10[/bold] wrote: Can't your poll say how many people have voted? (A NO vote just changed your numbers by 4%, so presumably it is possible to say that 25 have done so up till 6.30pm Friday.)[/p][/quote]How can you tell that the numbers have jumped? You can't see the %s until you have voted and don't know what they were before. educated
  • Score: 0

1:22pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Jon10 says...

educated wrote:
Jon10 wrote: Can't your poll say how many people have voted? (A NO vote just changed your numbers by 4%, so presumably it is possible to say that 25 have done so up till 6.30pm Friday.)
How can you tell that the numbers have jumped? You can't see the %s until you have voted and don't know what they were before.
Because someone else voted and sent me the URL. I voted very soon after, and it was unlikely, though not impossible, that anyone else had as well.
[quote][p][bold]educated[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jon10[/bold] wrote: Can't your poll say how many people have voted? (A NO vote just changed your numbers by 4%, so presumably it is possible to say that 25 have done so up till 6.30pm Friday.)[/p][/quote]How can you tell that the numbers have jumped? You can't see the %s until you have voted and don't know what they were before.[/p][/quote]Because someone else voted and sent me the URL. I voted very soon after, and it was unlikely, though not impossible, that anyone else had as well. Jon10
  • Score: 0

2:13pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Barnet Parker says...

I'm interested in the reports on this subject about how doing away with the Cricklewood Green Space will clear the area of drunks - but surely regular police or safer neighbourhood teams should resolve that problem. Barnet Council has bragged in the past that the whole of the borough is a desiignated 'No Outdoor Drinking Zone'. Whose to say that drunks will not congregate around whatever replaces the green spaces. I've seen a rise of this problem in other green spaces in the borough.

Does this tell us something about Boris Johnson's cuts to the police service? If is does what does it tell us about the recent cuts to London's Fire Service?
I'm interested in the reports on this subject about how doing away with the Cricklewood Green Space will clear the area of drunks - but surely regular police or safer neighbourhood teams should resolve that problem. Barnet Council has bragged in the past that the whole of the borough is a desiignated 'No Outdoor Drinking Zone'. Whose to say that drunks will not congregate around whatever replaces the green spaces. I've seen a rise of this problem in other green spaces in the borough. Does this tell us something about Boris Johnson's cuts to the police service? If is does what does it tell us about the recent cuts to London's Fire Service? Barnet Parker
  • Score: -1

7:49pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Jon10 says...

Barnet Parker wrote:
I'm interested in the reports on this subject about how doing away with the Cricklewood Green Space will clear the area of drunks - but surely regular police or safer neighbourhood teams should resolve that problem. Barnet Council has bragged in the past that the whole of the borough is a desiignated 'No Outdoor Drinking Zone'. Whose to say that drunks will not congregate around whatever replaces the green spaces. I've seen a rise of this problem in other green spaces in the borough.

Does this tell us something about Boris Johnson's cuts to the police service? If is does what does it tell us about the recent cuts to London's Fire Service?
It's already agreed to widen the pavement along that section of Cricklewood Lane, which would allow market stall perhaps. Some trees would also go in.

Most of the space is still wanted by the Brent Cross developers, to build on, however.

Many people think that the grassed area can be lowered to pavement level, and a proper park constructed, well lit at night.

That would very likely displace the "drunks" somewhere else - that is usually what happens. In fact people say that is why they are there now.
[quote][p][bold]Barnet Parker[/bold] wrote: I'm interested in the reports on this subject about how doing away with the Cricklewood Green Space will clear the area of drunks - but surely regular police or safer neighbourhood teams should resolve that problem. Barnet Council has bragged in the past that the whole of the borough is a desiignated 'No Outdoor Drinking Zone'. Whose to say that drunks will not congregate around whatever replaces the green spaces. I've seen a rise of this problem in other green spaces in the borough. Does this tell us something about Boris Johnson's cuts to the police service? If is does what does it tell us about the recent cuts to London's Fire Service?[/p][/quote]It's already agreed to widen the pavement along that section of Cricklewood Lane, which would allow market stall perhaps. Some trees would also go in. Most of the space is still wanted by the Brent Cross developers, to build on, however. Many people think that the grassed area can be lowered to pavement level, and a proper park constructed, well lit at night. That would very likely displace the "drunks" somewhere else - that is usually what happens. In fact people say that is why they are there now. Jon10
  • Score: 0

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